In some cases I will use a box and one, but almost never on a true power forward or center. Most the times I will use a 3-2 if its a guard and who evers near the player we want to eliminate I want them to match up. If the player is too skilled then I will uses a box and 1 to trap to force him to pass the ball. Sometimes if your in a box and 1 then the other 4 players tend to get laxed because they think that only one player happens to play defense, and because the other four are in a zone setting which makes them harder to rebound already being laxed.
Hello, I read you short discussion here on a Box and 1 and I thought I would add my input.
The defense was developed by John Wooden of UCLA, the greatest coach of all time to hinder the Big E, Elvin Hayes of Houston in the final four.
On January 20, 1968 UCLA lost to Huston in one of the most famous college basketball games ever. It was televised nationally from the Huston Astrodome in prime time and had 30,000 in attendance.
Both teams were undefeated and UCLA had not lost for 2 ½ years.
It feature Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul Jabbar) verse Elvin Hayes, a pair of first team All-Americans and future Hall of Famers.
All though, today this is done on a regular basis, back then this was a huge event for college basketball fans.
If coach Wooden thought it could be used against a 4 man, trust me you can too.
A box and 1 can be used against any position on the court. It is a gimmick defense that lets the office dictate the pace, determine where and when they want to shoot and has a ton of holes in it.
That being said, if your team is over matched at a certain position it is certainly an option for portions of a game. However, unless the other team can not shoot at all from the outside or is just off that night, it is virtually impossible to win a game using it.
If your team has a real chance of winning the game on its own, with the exception that one player is killing you, it is much better to save this defense to the last five minutes of a game.
And/or use it periodically throughout the first half, but defiantly not too much. You really do not want the offense to catch on to what you are doing and save it for crunch time hoping to confuse them just long enough to steal a game.
The reason for this is that it takes the offense a while to adjust to what you are doing. In addition, since most teams rarely if ever prepare for this defense it takes them a while just to figure out what you are doing.
Instead of never using it against inside players, that is exactly who it was designed to be used against. The rest of your players should have at least one foot in the lane and hope the opposition is missing that night. If you expand the defense you leave holes everywhere that are easily exploited, not to mention you are totally out of rebounding position and will get murdered by offensive rebounds.
If you are playing against a wing or point that is hurting you, then you are much better off playing a 2-3 or 1-3-1 and just pay special attention to them. In other words, wherever they are on the court the player in that position in the zone plays them as if were in a man-to-man not giving them any room at all to get an outside shot. He will then have help from the defenders behind him protecting against the drive.
You must have excellent communications between the players to accomplish this. Because when the star leaves one player’s area of responsibility the next player must immediately pick them up.
If you are going to do this, you must also adjust the rest of you zone to prevent holes in created by the defender playing against the star on the other team. Each and every defense has there plusses and minuses, if you try to cover everyplace you end up covering no-place.
Regardless of what gimmick defense you run, it always comes back to packing it in tight and hoping the opposition is off that night. Sometimes that is the only way you are going to win a game.
We ran a lot of box and 1 and triangle and 2. The main points of emphasis for us as a team was to cover up deficiencies. We struggled with rebounding and keeping the ball in front of us for penetration. By denying the one/two primary scorers/shooters we took away the best weapons and forced the 3rd and 4th options to be primary scorers and with us packing in the triangle/box of the defense it gives our stationary defenders to pack the zone in and be in great rebounding position.
Hi Steve, it sounds like you were really overmatched. I have been there and it is not fun. The way you used your defenses is exactly how they should be used. When there is that much of a discrepancy in talent your only hope is to let them chuck away and hope they are missing.
A few other things you can do, but it sounds like you were also very young and inexperienced so it is not easy to teach everything your players need to know.
First, you can change your defenses on every dead ball. You can go from the box and 1, to the triangle and 2, to a 2-3 or 1-3-1.
With standard zones it is possible to accomplish virtually the same thing as the box and 1 or triangle and 2 and take away 1 ½ shooters. If you try to take away 2 shooters you leave holes everywhere.
But, you can get a hand in the ½ shooters face when he goes up and play the opposition’s principle scorers man to man wherever he is in the zone and pass him off when he moves, thus greatly limiting his open shoots.
You can also play man to man and just sag off everybody and don’t front the post players. The only player you play tight is the oppositions main shooter. Bobby Knight did this quite a bit when he was at Indiana. Just so he could say he NEVER played a zone.
You can also try a little trick Dean Smith used to do which I do not see used too often anymore. Which is to run a 1-3-1 half court trap, but not in a standard way.
Instead, what you try to do is trap in one of three places that can really confuse the offense since they never know where it is going to come from. First, you can trap when the ball crosses half court regardless of where it is at. Second, you can trap on the first pass. Third, you can trap on the second pass.
When you do this though, your team has to be fully committed to stealing the ball and only leave the only player open who is futurist from the ball. The two defensive players in the trap themselves must be very aggressive moving their hands constantly disrupting the vision of the offensive player that has the basketball hoping he can not connect with the open player who is usually right under the basket on the far side of the court.
Hey Coach, most of the teams we face will have 1 or 2 primary players, that need stopped. So I added a box 1 strong (where we play man on a specific person always denying once he passes the ball) and our primary box 1 set utilizes one defender on the ball always with alot of man/helpside principles for the 4 "box" players. If we use the primary box 1, I do a heavy rotation of fresh legs chasing the ball as they tire quickly running all over.